Comments on: Some Interesting Links… http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/27/some-interesting-links/ Wed, 01 Feb 2012 14:17:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Home Manufactoring in the Future | FreeFormFab http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/27/some-interesting-links/comment-page-1/#comment-233 Home Manufactoring in the Future | FreeFormFab Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:32:34 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=154#comment-233 [...] Source: We don’t do retro [...] [...] Source: We don’t do retro [...]

]]> By: csven http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/27/some-interesting-links/comment-page-1/#comment-182 csven Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:48:54 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=154#comment-182 While PDF does seem to be primarily students, one might expect a bit more curiosity from a generation supposedly tuned in to the new Computerized Age. Not that I ever bought into the stereotypical hype, but there would seem to be some small truth to the idea they'd be more acclimated to technology; I can only fault their instructors so much. I'm not at all surprised by the Core professionals. To me, the forum almost seems a kind of refuge from business reality. While PDF does seem to be primarily students, one might expect a bit more curiosity from a generation supposedly tuned in to the new Computerized Age. Not that I ever bought into the stereotypical hype, but there would seem to be some small truth to the idea they’d be more acclimated to technology; I can only fault their instructors so much.

I’m not at all surprised by the Core professionals. To me, the forum almost seems a kind of refuge from business reality.

]]> By: matt http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/27/some-interesting-links/comment-page-1/#comment-181 matt Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:22:39 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=154#comment-181 To be fair, the majority of members at Product Design Forums seem to be students, which means they're still in the process of finding out what industrial design is, whilst trying to do what they're told is necessary to get a job at the end of their studies. If students aren't aware of the changes coming to the profession, a big part of the blame lies with their schools and tutors who insist on teaching industrial design as an image generation, rather than an idea generation, process. Of course there are exceptions, for example this fantastic project at Victoria University in New Zealand: http://blog.ponoko.com/2008/06/26/vuw-students-create-3d-printers If more schools taught like this I suspect there'd be a lot more interest in the issues you're concerned with. What surprised me more was the reaction from some professional designers at Core77. It wasn't that they thought the argument was wrong, more that they refused even to engage with the argument. I meet plenty of designers in 'real life', and whilst they may not agree with what I say, they are almost always interested in the discussion. Perhaps I'm just lucky... To be fair, the majority of members at Product Design Forums seem to be students, which means they’re still in the process of finding out what industrial design is, whilst trying to do what they’re told is necessary to get a job at the end of their studies. If students aren’t aware of the changes coming to the profession, a big part of the blame lies with their schools and tutors who insist on teaching industrial design as an image generation, rather than an idea generation, process. Of course there are exceptions, for example this fantastic project at Victoria University in New Zealand:

http://blog.ponoko.com/2008/06/26/vuw-students-create-3d-printers

If more schools taught like this I suspect there’d be a lot more interest in the issues you’re concerned with.

What surprised me more was the reaction from some professional designers at Core77. It wasn’t that they thought the argument was wrong, more that they refused even to engage with the argument. I meet plenty of designers in ‘real life’, and whilst they may not agree with what I say, they are almost always interested in the discussion. Perhaps I’m just lucky…

]]> By: csven http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/27/some-interesting-links/comment-page-1/#comment-180 csven Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:30:30 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=154#comment-180 The arrogance on display in that Core77 thread mirrored the attitude which finally caused me to abandon posting comments on the site. Unfortunately, I now see it as little more than a self-congratulatory/mutual-commiseration forum. That said, I've not found the Product Design Forums to be especially rewarding either. Witness the effort it took to draw people into the Creature Creator thread. That so many designers have so little imagination in regards to the future of the own profession is startling. The arrogance on display in that Core77 thread mirrored the attitude which finally caused me to abandon posting comments on the site. Unfortunately, I now see it as little more than a self-congratulatory/mutual-commiseration forum.

That said, I’ve not found the Product Design Forums to be especially rewarding either. Witness the effort it took to draw people into the Creature Creator thread. That so many designers have so little imagination in regards to the future of the own profession is startling.

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