Comments on: Dassault Systèmes’ 3DVia gives some clues about the future of consumer generated 3D content http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/ Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:13:05 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Garth http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/comment-page-1/#comment-162 Garth Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:15:22 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=142#comment-162 You make an excellent comment about the increasing use of 3D by corporations, in attempts to proliferate 3D experiences to their customers and users. There is clearly a danger of not only copyright infringement, but also of reverse engineering of the 3D data by companies seeking to copy designs. So if you put your product on-line, what can you do to protect your most valuable asset? We have solved this in 3DVIA Composer (one of the professional products that these companies DO buy), with a proprietary tool called Secure3D. The idea is that you want to share your 3D model to the world, but don't want to put out an accurate representation that can be reverse engineered. Secure3D creates an inaccurate and irreversable mesh that maintains the visual integrity of the model but messes up the math, so consumers can enjoy interacting with the models, but those naughty reverse-engineering people are no better off. You make an excellent comment about the increasing use of 3D by corporations, in attempts to proliferate 3D experiences to their customers and users. There is clearly a danger of not only copyright infringement, but also of reverse engineering of the 3D data by companies seeking to copy designs.

So if you put your product on-line, what can you do to protect your most valuable asset?

We have solved this in 3DVIA Composer (one of the professional products that these companies DO buy), with a proprietary tool called Secure3D. The idea is that you want to share your 3D model to the world, but don’t want to put out an accurate representation that can be reverse engineered. Secure3D creates an inaccurate and irreversable mesh that maintains the visual integrity of the model but messes up the math, so consumers can enjoy interacting with the models, but those naughty reverse-engineering people are no better off.

]]> By: Don Swavely http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Don Swavely Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:11:04 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=142#comment-160 You are exactly right about tangled webs. Most of us just have too little time to read/see the details. Thanks for the follow up changes. You are exactly right about tangled webs. Most of us just have too little time to read/see the details. Thanks for the follow up changes.

]]> By: matt http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/comment-page-1/#comment-159 matt Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:27:12 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=142#comment-159 @Matt Baron: Thanks for the clarification. I was looking for a list of supported formats but couldn't find the page. @Don Swavely: I guess your second point is a perfect illustration of the tangled webs that might arise regarding copyright if this kind of thing takes off. I have amended the caption to include credit for the original author. @Matt Baron: Thanks for the clarification. I was looking for a list of supported formats but couldn’t find the page.

@Don Swavely: I guess your second point is a perfect illustration of the tangled webs that might arise regarding copyright if this kind of thing takes off. I have amended the caption to include credit for the original author.

]]> By: Don Swavely http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/comment-page-1/#comment-158 Don Swavely Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:14:17 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=142#comment-158 These are excellent comments and reflect the ongoing definition of online content rights, which is well out of my realm. However, two points are brought up by your inclusion of the green truck, which you credited to me: - "Remixing" is only available for models created using 3DVIA Shape and when the original author specifically allows it. - The green truck started as a remix of a red truck originally modeled by rguyen. The history of the model is included on the model page (<a href="http://www.3dvia.com/dswavely/media/2570C81B2D3F1123" rel="nofollow">http://www.3dvia.com/dswavely/media/2570C81B2D3F1123</a>). It was developed specifically as a demonstration of the power of "remixing" the work already done by others and was used as the basis for a blog post (<a href="http://www.3dvia.com/blog/2008/04/10/start-with-the-best-remix-the-rest/" rel="nofollow">http://www.3dvia.com/blog/2008/04/10/start-with-the-best-remix-the-rest/</a>), where the author was given full credit and thanks. As you noted, since Shape is not likely to be adopted by "pro" users, anything that helps new users to make progress and get excited about 3D modeling is a plus. Thanks for your reviews and comments! These are excellent comments and reflect the ongoing definition of online content rights, which is well out of my realm.

However, two points are brought up by your inclusion of the green truck, which you credited to me:

- “Remixing” is only available for models created using 3DVIA Shape and when the original author specifically allows it.

- The green truck started as a remix of a red truck originally modeled by rguyen. The history of the model is included on the model page (http://www.3dvia.com/dswavely/media/2570C81B2D3F1123). It was developed specifically as a demonstration of the power of “remixing” the work already done by others and was used as the basis for a blog post (http://www.3dvia.com/blog/2008/04/10/start-with-the-best-remix-the-rest/), where the author was given full credit and thanks.

As you noted, since Shape is not likely to be adopted by “pro” users, anything that helps new users to make progress and get excited about 3D modeling is a plus.

Thanks for your reviews and comments!

]]> By: Matt Baron http://no-retro.com/home/2008/06/03/dassault-systemes-3dvia-gives-some-clues-about-the-future-of-consumer-generated-3d-content/comment-page-1/#comment-157 Matt Baron Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:14:11 +0000 http://no-retro.com/home/?p=142#comment-157 "the 3DVia forum will accept models in any of the formats which Shape supports - this includes .3ds, .3dxml and .stl." Actually, 3DVIA supports many more formats including: * 3ds * obj * dae (collada) * stl * vrml * ply * off * kmz Through those formats, 3DVIA can support most major 3D authoring softwares either natively or through a plug-in. It is also interesting to note that 3DVIA supports kmz, which is exported from the free version of Google SketchUp. See this page for more info: http://www.3dvia.com/help/authoring_softwares_table.php “the 3DVia forum will accept models in any of the formats which Shape supports – this includes .3ds, .3dxml and .stl.”

Actually, 3DVIA supports many more formats including:

* 3ds
* obj
* dae (collada)
* stl
* vrml
* ply
* off
* kmz

Through those formats, 3DVIA can support most major 3D authoring softwares either natively or through a plug-in. It is also interesting to note that 3DVIA supports kmz, which is exported from the free version of Google SketchUp.

See this page for more info:
http://www.3dvia.com/help/authoring_softwares_table.php

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